Paul Thomas Anderson Films - Phantom Thread vs There Will Be Blood

We are back for 2022! strap in and hold on to your milkshakes as this ones a whopper. As Licorice Pizza came out in cinemas in the new year we will be focusing on the films of it's legendary director, Paul Thomas Anderson, for out picks.

Warning will be talking SPOILERS.

Martins pick for this week is Daniel Day Lewis's final film appearance, Phantom Thread. On this one we talk about the incredible acting talents from everyone in this amazing cast, but mainly Daniel Day Lewis. We about how this film has the best scenes ever set at breakfast. Plus the incredibly creative insults PTA has up his sleeve in this film. IMDB page 

Boaz's pick is probably his favourite film of all time, There Will Be Blood. We talk about, well Boaz mainly talks about how amazing everything is in this film, from again the amazing acting talents on show. The cinematography, the great PTA push ins and again the creative insults. Warning there are many Daniel Day Lewis impressions a foot. IMDB page

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Hello film fans welcome to the film versus film podcast. My name is Martin Harries your host and I'm joined by the filmic Cyclopedia man pious Dix. We are a couple of filmmakers on occasion but mainly Can't Stop yapping about movies. On this podcast every episode, we pick a topic from a film that's coming out at the cinema, or on VOD, myself and buyers pick our favourite film from that topic, and we battle out to decide which film will become the greatest film of all time. According to two film geeks from Wiltshire, England, if you enjoy this podcast please leave us a review and subscribe Hello, Potter Rooney's we are back for 2022 I know you've missed us dearly and desperate for our podcast in our ears. You thought you could get rid of us No such luck. Back here with a vengeance. We are indeed. Just a few announcements to say before we get started we are going down to every two weeks now for each episode still coming out on Saturdays but just every two weeks I know it's sad but it just got a lot for me in particular yeah for you in particular i i hardly had to do anything I'm just I just wake up crowds just turns up say a system I do I do even half assed I'm not even prepared. I've barely watched films, whatever. You've got to do so much when and work. And the other thing we're going to start off with a new table so on our Instagram on Tuesdays it'll be a new table so we're not so we're keeping the 2021 one separate so be kind of cool to have a new table for 2022 Right? That's the only real things to announce for this year. And also I said at the end of the last episode that we did in on the 18th of December when you heard it that we might do an episode related to screen or screen five but every time I mentioned scream five double as he's like half ago say why do they have to call it scream at schools grapevine? Yeah, so no, I hate that actually to be honest. Can we can we do a thing based on that but this is gonna be nice, but sequels which don't have a subtitle or number because we could do a few and I can choose everyone confuse the hell out of people. There's Rocky Balboa for example, or just bow bow where you know, or actually a lot of the Sylvester Stallone ones he just fucking does that doesn't need to really annoying. Yeah, yeah, bow bow or in just Rambo isn't it is the number five. could do that? Yeah, maybe. And we kind of done slasher films already. Yeah, but I am thoroughly annoyed when when movies do that. You have a sequel? That doesn't? Yeah, but it's got the same name as the first one. Like, I could keep going on I'm gonna I'm gonna ruin this this podcast with it. I was gonna come after you. Yeah, I'll kill you man making fifth calls sixth calls just saying the original. Was it you know, Fast and the Furious. And then is it the fourth one is the Fast and the Furious. It's like what the hell? Yeah, so confusing. I hate this. I hate I mean, in the NIT, I mean, the new one is just called F nine like on a keyboard. Yeah, what was it? I think I accidentally press the f9 key instead of the actual fucking tight Oh, that'll do. Yeah. Oh, wow. actually works. We don't need extra words other than Yeah, the next one is just gonna be f you know? I mean, the way this the way it's stupidly getting with those films. They could just call it f you because they have no Absolutely. We have no respect for the people watching. Right sorry about my rant. I really like movie titles. But yeah, podcasts derailed drive me crazy. hello back. Yeah. So just let me run another hour and then we can get let's carry on. Yeah, let's rant for another hour for the intro then get into Yeah. So yeah, we're not going to do a progress relate to screen five. I know it's very popular. So I'm not that into the screen films anyway. You know, I love screen one that's great, but the others are a bit more for me. So we decided to go with licorice pizza, which of course is directed by the great Paul Thomas Anderson. Legendary director PTA. I do love his films, so he decided to go for that one instead. As always you've heard him already but we have our very own milkshake straw maker the size of oil derricks so bad boy Aztecs how are you? Did you just call me fat? Is that an underhanded way? This is an oil derrick Jesus Christ. No the size of the straw. Oh, okay. All right, whatever. I'll take that as a compliment, I think. Yeah, yeah, you're good. Yeah. No, I'm good. Yeah. All right. Should we go with my choice? verson Yep. For Paul Thomas Anderson films. I went with phantom thread. I really love this film. I think it's really beautiful. Is that phantom thread or phantom thread? Phantom for you. Certainly not saying Phantom. Okay. All right. Phantom Phantom. No purple people in this. We believe. Oh, no, that's, I think I've watched the wrong film. Oh, shit. Yeah. Billy Zane is the fountain making film? I would love to watch. Amazing. Yeah, cuz you picked There will be blood first. And I love that film as well. So I was probably gonna pick that if you didn't pick it. Yeah. And it's got obviously the legendary Daniel Day Lewis in it. And I was like, You know what? Because Daniel Day Lewis has retired I may as well pick the other film and PDA use Daniel Day Lewis in So this episode is kind of half PTA half. Because the poor side has retired now. Which is a real shame. You know, it's kind of one of those things where he's retired. Left us wanting more from his work so so what happens in Phantom Fred Well, a character called Reynolds Woodcock played by Daniel Day Lewis is a renowned like dressmaker in London, 1950s, London, highly, highly respected. And one of the main points in this film, and it's not a joke is that he needs a lot of patients at breakfast. He meets a girl called Alma, played by Vicki craps. Yeah, and they meet in a restaurant by the sea. And they kind of hit it off. But Alma soon realises that the only way she can love Reynolds properly is by kind of removing or trying to get Reynolds away from this dress making business that he's so fond of and said so dedicated to. So she finally kind of comes up with the idea of poisoning with poisonous mushrooms, so he can like look after him while he's ill. And that's kind of like the best way for them both to like fall in love and love each other basically, is kind of a great romantic film that kind of flips the Hollywood, Hollywood Enos on its head kind of thing, which I really like. And also it looks amazing as well. So you know, again, short and film. I'm a big advocate for more films to be shot on film. Yeah, love it. So bow as What did you make of this one, then? Yeah, no, I thought it was I thought was amazing. Yeah, basically, all you said and more. I thought it was shot very well. And yeah, you know, I think it is it is an interesting romance film, because it is essentially a romance. What are these incredibly dysfunctional? It's not really, it's not really done in the conventional way. Yeah. And it does have like a charming ending, but it really is very different from like any other romance film, you're like, wow, okay. That's how they decided to deal with it. Yeah, like you say, you know, basically their relationship. You know, what saves, it is poisonous. You know, it's, you know, but it's kind of adorable, you know, I don't know. There's a lot more we can say about it. But yeah, no, I did like it. Yeah. So directing. Then for Phantom. Fred's like the opening scenes very simple. Just the saboteur establishing this world of dressmaking in the 1950s in London. You know, the breakfast table scene is really interesting, where Daniel Day Lewis has character. Reynolds Woodcock gets slightly annoyed by her current lover and she says, you know, where have you gone Reynolds? What you normally would have is a reaction shot of Reynolds first, but not PDA. The reaction is on Lesley Manville his character, Cyril Reynolds, his sister in close up the fact that we cut to a different character and close up means that this small situation could get quite serious or potentially very serious in the future. Certainly scenes are very important in this film. So quite like that, I quite like the simple wide shot when, towards the end, when Cyril and Alma are tending to Reynolds, the first time he gets really ill in bed. And when Cyril leaves and asked her to come with her, it just shuts the door on her. And it's a really nice composure in terms of blocking. And a real like symbol of power starting to shift, you know, the now Mo has Reynolds where she wants him to love him how she wants to and Cyril is forced to sort the wedding dress out by herself with all the other workers, then zero kind of hits back a little bit by bringing in the doctor to look at Reynolds, but then Reynolds and Alma tells him to fuck off literally. Then Alma and so Cyril literally say their lines at the same time, like Alma was really trying to force our way to the top of the tree in this house, you know, so I kind of like certainly in the way that the both characters Cyril and Alma are directed in terms of of the power struggle in those moments in the film. Yeah, definitely. You can feel like she comes a long way, you know, is quite, you know, meek and you know, pretty and stuff into more of an authority. Yeah, going back to what you said, like, at the dinner table, the first scene where you were saying, because I actually think you get a different sense of the plot from that shot. And it happens again, where, you know, somebody asks Woodcock or something, something, you know, like, he's having a conversation with, you know, a girl that he's with, without be Elmer, or the previous girl, but it always goes to her reaction, or it does that sometime. So when you said they're talking at the dinner table, it goes their reaction in my thought process. I'm like, the reason I, you know, when I see her, you know, the camera go to her, rather than him even though he's the one talking. And she's not really involved in this conversation. To me, it gets the feeling of oh, god, she's heard this again. Do you know what I mean? Like, this is a kind of very familiar conversation his sister has heard probably with his other lovers and stuff, like this again, and then I got that sense as well, when he takes Elma to have a dress fitting, you know, so he's like, and she just comes in and the cameras just on her as Yeah, also talking to Elmer and talking to Cyril to get the measurements but the camera is on her and is on her pad. And you just get this feeling from the fact that it's focusing on her of like, God this is another one Oh God, this is a again, you know, sort of visible here we go again face but the camera is on her while you know, Daniel Day Lewis is is with this other woman. And I just I thought that's kind of an effective way to frame the scene. Because you know, you get this this this just from those those shots, just the way to do that and the focus on a different character. You get this sort of view that this isn't going to last or this is doomed. This is probably happened again. Yeah, that's sort of what I was getting from PTA loves a long like pushing shot in scenes. You know, there are loads of great potions in there will be bloods in really important moments. There aren't that many at all infant and Fred's. You know, this film has a slight like claustrophobic quality to it. So lots of patients wouldn't be needed so much but PTA comes back to his long push in when Reynolds tells Alma he loves her and asked her to marry him. And the longer she waits to answer you can really feel the camera coming in closer and closer, and making the scene more impactful with with the shot. Because it's a huge moment for Reynolds because he's clearly states that he's destined to be a bachelor for the rest of his life, you know, so I thought that was quite a nice way the camera just moves in closer and closer. Yes. As you know, this big moment happens. I thought that was quite clever from PTA. Yeah, definitely, you know, in saving that his kind of like signature move for a really important moment when they're kind of like everywhere in there. We'll be glad you got a favourite shot then. So I've got I've got a few shots that I quite like there is one shot that sticks out to me as I don't know why it sticks out so much but I just quite like it and it is very simple, but it is simply when he goes before he meets the owner where his sister is like, okay, you know, you probably need to go to the country clear your head or whatever go for go somewhere. And he's like, you know, that's a good idea. And then he goes on a drive and just you have this kind of long shot of him driving with his car and just the camera sort of effects to his car where it's following Yeah, he's a dangerous drug is a terrible very terrible drug. But it really, really fast. Really, yeah, really all over the place. Dude, slow down. You gotta get yourself. Well, I just I don't know. I just really like that scene one, you get the look of this, you know, in environment, you know, kind of a very rural seaside area. And it looks nice, it looks quite nice and you know, time appropriate vehicles and what have you and behind his car, but I just like how it is attached. It's like it's attached to his car the camera, like it's following exactly. Yeah. And I don't know that's that shot stuck out to me other shots that I quite like, yeah. I liked the you know, when we were talking about the scene where he's fitting the dress to the first time, and I like how it quickly cut. I like the cuts there between her writing on the paper. I know it's a simple thing but him saying the measurements and you know, you see these shots of him measuring across her arm, and then quickly to her jotting it down and then straight to him measuring another I don't know, but that stuck to me as well. I thought that was cut. Like quite nice. You know what I mean? It just looked appealing. Yeah, you know they're nice those like extreme close ups of her writing the numbers down yeah, there's just something quite satisfying about Yeah, there was something just very satisfying about it. I liked when she was displaying the dresses in front of you know, the crowd that were auctioning for them. And you know, she goes yeah, she goes in gets another dress put on and then the camera have like one is Yeah, and the camera follows her from room to room. So you know she can and then background and he's he is not cool as a cucumber. I do like that when the camera goes through these routes. Let me do it myself. Yeah. Oh, wait, he gets really pissed off. He's in the moment. But yeah, no, I do like that like this, this these long tracking shots of her going across the thing. I thought that was really nice. My favourite shot is when Reynolds and Alma on their honeymoon and in the outs and there's a shot of Reynolds like sat down looking at people walking up a mountain. And you see these amazing mountains in the background. It's just stunning to look at probably because it's shot on film, you know, then the dissolving transition from that to falling snow to run out an animal walking down these glamorous steps. It's just a really nice look to the film and just a really nice simple sequence. When he goes to the New Year's party eventually, I wasn't expecting that to be as as large and as chaotic as it was, you know, you get all these shots in like quiet rooms and quaint countryside. And then he goes off he's like he's like darting from one place to the other because she wants to go dancing for New Year and he is not interested. And he has run Chili's like and then I just like how he opened he opens the door and it's still like quiet quaint and very simple and opens the door and it's absolute Mania with you know, loads of balloons and people on stilts and giant parades and all this stuff. There's only likes the quiet life. Yeah. Yeah. I quite like that. I thought that was that was really good. Her preparing the mushrooms, especially the second time that was that was incredibly sinister. You get that very passive aggressive. Yeah, that you know how she's just like looking at him like, like the daggers and he's just like, you know, he knows there's something wrong, but I just love how it's done. It's so simple but the camera just slowly panning down to her chopping something watching chopping. It's mushrooms and you're like, you know, and she prepares them for them. And it's it's such a simple thing, but just how it shot and you know, the the music of it and, and just how they're looking at each other. It's just quite tense. And just obviously the the choice of close ups in that scene is obviously very significant because Reynolds hates butter. He hates too much butter. So you get a massive slap of butter on the pan. Yeah, you know, like, oh shit. Yeah. You know, I mean, a slab a bow isn't more scary in this isn't you know, you know? I mean? Yeah, right score bars. What are you going for? For directing? Yeah, no, I really like the directing in this. I think I'll go. I do like it. I do like it. But I'm not sure how much I like it. Because I'm not sure because I would give it like in the nines but I'm not sure. So because because of that hesitance. I'm going to give it an 8.8 All right. No, I think that's very fair. I don't I think we're both films Excel is with the acting and the writing for me. I think there will be blood, I think excels more than this in the directing. Yeah, because there is so much going on and there will be blood. You know, in my in my opinion, I just think there's so much going on and there will be blood. I think with this though you kind of can feel the film presence a bit more. Possibly. I don't know of the look of the film in this One phantom thread. So I'll go I'll go the same actually 8.8 I think that's pretty spot on, I think right screenplay, then the first 30 minutes are really interesting where the film is quite romantic and there's no tension between Alma and Rennels. Just that first breakfast scene at the start with his lover. When Alma and says in this little montage sequence, whatever you do, do it carefully, and it does feel slightly like a warning that she will fight back if she's mistreated. But the tone is still very romantic. And you're like, this tone is not gonna last, you can't have a film with this very wistful, you know, romantic tone for too long. And then when you get to the second breakfast scene with Alma, she's making so much noise that really distracts Reynolds while he's drawing. And in your mind, as a viewer, if he's getting this irritated from a bit of noise at breakfast, how do you think he's going to react if one of his dresses isn't? You know, not good at all. In fact, each breakfast scene becomes even more like I see with tension even for Cyril. So the tension building between the characters are incredibly subtly done, you know, I think it's just great. And obviously, it doesn't work without the incredible acting as well. But certainly, structurally, with those breakfast scenes are great. I quite like the scene with Barbara rose, this quite hysterical middle aged woman who gets married in one of Woodcocks dresses. Oh, where she likes at first and the table. Yeah, that was quite funny and bring some humour to the film. Yeah, I thought that was hilarious. She just may have to drag her I love that. They just pick her up. Yeah, that was a good scene. And then when she's like, crying about it, Alma, he's like, What the hell, you know, what's your problem? And he's like, she thinks it's disgraceful. Like how she's behaving, you know? Yeah. And so he kind of is sort of ag that kind of gives him the passion to go. Do you know what? Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't be standing to the ship. And he just goes over to my dress back. Yeah, well, my dress back. And I like that is like, what she's, you know, she's still wearing it. It's like, Well, where is she? She's asleep. Like she's sleeping in the dress. But go in there and get it the fuck off. Yeah, that was a good yeah. PTA loves a well timed swear word. Yeah. Like, we'll get onto this a lot in this podcast. PTA loves insults. He loves really creative. And there's some great ones in here. Can. Cannot Can I go over a few that I like, sort of in no particular order? Yeah. But I like when he's really kind of passive aggressive when she tries to bring him a cup of tea while he's working. Do you remember that? Yeah. And it was like, you know, it's not the time per se. And she says, Okay, I'm going out. And he goes, the T is going out. The interruption is staying right here with me. I quite like that. It's a very bitchy sort of ruined it. Oh, and I like when, what was it? Cyril thinks he might get rid of Alma. And they talk about that, because he's like, do you want me to go? And then he's, she's like, you know, I just don't want you to break her heart. And then he has a go at her. And I'd like why she goes, Don't pick a fight with me. You certainly won't come out alive. I'll go right through you. And it'll be new who ends up on the floor. Understand, either? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty Yeah, that was great. There's some great great, like, you know, insults and terms of phrasing. Yeah. I love that moment, in case great acting from Lesley Manville, you know, when she threatens Reynolds at that breakfast scene, because it's established several times that Reynolds is the dominant presence at breakfast. You know, Reynolds tells her to shut up and she remains very calm, but doesn't even bother looking at Reynolds. Not because she's scared of him, but because she doesn't want her to use up wasted energy on him. That's what I kind of fell from it and then says that amazing. Yeah. So incredible. And I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, when and when like, Alma goes in that room to take the green dress off that ridiculous woman. She says she can no longer behave like this and be dressed by the House of Woodcock and Hans like that. That was pretty badass. That moment. Yeah. In this very romantic, 50 style, of course. And then in the next scenes, a lot of the conversations between Reynolds and Cyril have are all from like ours perspective. And it's, it's like Emma has got to get past Cyril and the whole dress making business to to first truly get to Reynolds fully and live with him, how she wants to and ALMAZ first idea is to surprise Reynolds by getting everyone out of the house and she cooks a meal for him. And CO sir all advises against this. And as soon as Reynolds walks in he know he's going to hate it. Yeah. And of course he does. And they have an enormous argument mainly about asparagus. Yeah, I found that funny because she was like, you know, I advise against this Elmos. Like, you know, fair enough. But this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to love and in my in my own way, I love the reaction as he comes in. And he's just like, you know, Sarah, immediately asking for a sister. Where is she? I sent her away, where he she, you know, as you can see, he's quite annoyed, but he keeps it in. And when he went up the stairs because he's like, I made your dinner is like, he's like, okay, and he just walks up the steps. I thought he was gonna slap the shit out. But he just really kind of walks very by the steps like, will you have like, what was that martinis? Like? No, thank you, you know, but I love how we just gonna have a bath. Yeah, at least tries to entertainer with this. But is then just absolutely hate cookie. Just had a has a no. Yeah, I mean, just, I love that. Like, doesn't like a cookie and then, like baraitser and then she's like, it's like, I just can't carry on with this facade. I've got butter on my oil. I like to lose it a shit. Cuz are you just doing this to piss me off? She's like, do you think I don't need you? Like he says that and I thought he was gonna go like, because I need you. But he's like, do you think I don't need you? It's like, Yeah, well, I don't need you. Like, brutally honest. He is like, I don't fucking care about you. Yeah, I like that. Because there's one bit where he goes like, is this an ambush? Are you sent to ruin my evening and possibly my entire life? He's like, Have you got a gun? Gun on you? I love I love that bit. Because it's like he is kind of he's falling for her in that moment. Because it's like, he can't get away from them. And now that the connection between them is too strong is like, are you am I so attracted to you? That you know, have you got Do you not? I mean, like, I do have a gun. Yeah, you like threatened? Are you keeping me in this? Yeah, I don't know. Why am I so attracted you dammit. Like kind of thing, you know. And then Alma comes up with a different plan to poison Reynolds. And, but then combine that with with the fact that Alma is telling us this story and like flash forward to a man, we've only had like one shot off. And you're like, has she just had enough with this guy and just decided to kill him? Yeah, the poisonous mushrooms. So the intriguing character dynamics goes up a big notch. It's the first time we know something that Reynolds does not you know, so I thought that was kind of a clever moment now. Yeah, yeah. Cuz I was I was half thinking, you know that the framing device was she she'd murdered him and is explaining a crime. That's not exactly what's happening. It's like, basically explaining how she keeps this dysfunctional marriage going. You know, every time we hear he becomes a jackass and is quite abrasive. And he's, he's, he's just irritated by every little thing. And he's working too hard. She just poisons the fucker. And they get on really, really well. And then after a couple of days, yeah, he can. He can be a deck again. Yeah, and I love just how this film kind of, it's very unpredictable. It definitely keeps you guessing. And I love how this films averts like the Hollywood rom com ending, but they still end up happily in love at the end. You know, after they're married, things start falling apart again. And Alma goes off on our own to a New Year's Eve party. And it's directed in this classic way of the male lead, seeing the light and rushes after ALMA to find any, and he does, but there's no loving embrace, drags her back home really angry at ALMA, then their relationship seems to be intact as Reynolds thinks he's made a huge mistake marrying this girl. And there's this incredible passive aggressive scene in the kitchen where Alma cooks this omelette with loads of poisonous mushrooms with loads of butter which he hates, like pours the water really loudly you know but but I love how long they make you wait for them to say anything referring back to like this the staring contest quip for me Oh yeah. And Alma openly admits she's poisoning him because that that's the only way they can love each other and I feel like this whole film rides on Daniel Day Lewis his performance in accepting she's right in anyone else's hands. It would feel ridiculous. You know this situation, but it just works with him love You know, the music is brilliant too, in that in that scene. I love that when he clicks on that, actually, yeah, this would probably save their marriage because when he was sick the first time, you know, I'd like that scene because she was very caring, you know, you see this kind of montage for days. She's like, consoling him and feeding him and, and what have you. Yeah, she's even talking to the doctor. How about, you know, that was just like one of the best times of their marriage. He also has this really trippy scene where he's like, he sees his mother. Do you remember that? Where she's just in the corner of the room? In a wedding dress? It's like really? quite weird. You know? Because he talks about his mother a lot. And he misses her. Just like Caesar in the middle of the room. Yeah. Because I think weird is is is the right word. Because it's not it's not creepy. It didn't feel creepy. To me it just again, as he says himself, it kind of felt weirdly comforting for him, you know? Yeah, it wasn't scary at all. Yeah, cuz he even says at the beginning, you know, that the debt is still watching over over us. I don't find that creepy at all. I find it very comforting. And he talks about his mother so much. And at first I thought that was like Elmo in a wedding dress on the base of it, you know, the front of the bed. But then he keeps saying Mother and mother and his his mother was yeah, that was that's pretty weird. Again, brilliantly written. There are there are some great lines in this. We've we've mentioned a few already. From Reynolds, woodcock, he says in the argument I think in this surprise party, they you know, surprised dinner. If you don't wish to share that life, as apparently is so disagreeable to you in every respect. Why don't you just fuck off to back where you came from? was quite funny. And one from Alma herself to the doctor, I think and Cyril? Well, Reynolds is sick. And she says I think this is clear him. He wants you to fuck off. Just really well plays F words from PTA. And a great one near the end from Reynolds. To Cyril, I think there is an air of quiet death in this house. And I do not like the way it smells. Yeah, that is a really damn good one. Yeah, I think my favourite though is doesn't have a swear word in it. But my favourite is Sheikh, whoever invented that ought to be spanked in public. That's great. I remember when he's talking to Cyril, I think it's that same conversation. And he was like, he's just kind of pouring his heart out about how he's made a mistake. Marrying her, you know, She's ruining the house. You know, she's turning him inside out emotionally and stuff. And she's right behind him. I find that, you know, it's so funny. She's walking through and like, she's like, Oh, shit, and you just have that, you know, camera angle where it's him talking all this data. And it's like, She's right behind you fully. He's got no idea. She was walked in, as he's just cussing her out. And then she very quietly says, like, Mrs. Warren is satisfied with the dress. And you think he'd be shocked that he's actually been discovered area insulting her and regretting the merrier. But he doesn't even turn around and he just goes, nobody gives a tinker's fucking cause what about Mrs. Satisfaction? Yeah, I think she just walks out of the room, but I just I really like that. I thought that was quite funny. Yeah, great lines. Like your favourite. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a great line. Yeah, I think I would say that's my favourite score. Bow is what are you going for? For screenplay? Yeah, I think the screenplay is. It's pretty awesome, actually. And, you know, a lot of great lines. A lot of wit? Yeah, probably go and like a nine. Yeah, I just I just love how this film kind of keeps you guessing. And, again, just really creative swearing by BGA. But the characters are so well drawn. Yeah. Because I usually, like I can either guess pretty good, where film is going? Or, you know, I look it up, mostly. But I didn't look this one. And I literally had no bloody idea where the hell any of this was going. So I think if you go in blind, it's not one of those films where you're gonna be able to guess the plot points. Like they really do. Turn a lot of stuff on its head. Yeah. So it's it is a very unconventional romance movie. Yeah. It's one of these great films where the characters really drive drive the narrative in this story are not really plot. Yeah, to be honest. So I'll go with the 9.1. Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. It's not like some big thing happens. It's just he finds a girl and his personality and hers just don't match. And that is essentially the film. It's just that there's no big event that that causes a feud between them. They're just not right for each other. Really. That's what the film is but right acting then I think This is probably the world's best film, in terms of breakfast is that we've, as we say, has the most romantic and sexiest scene of ordering breakfast ever. Oh, yeah. He is the king of flirting. Daniel Day Lewis is like a little schoolboy ordering breakfast to Alma. She's a waitress at this point at the start of the film. Yeah, he's in full control of the scene. It's just a lovely scene between the two of them. Just really Anderson, you know, I would like well, shrimp poached egg on top. Sausages. Big. Yeah. You know, it's just like, whoa, steady on. That's too much. Yeah, I like that as well, because he's like, toast, butter, and jam, but not strawberry. And she's like, we got Blackberry. Anything else? Yeah. But it sounds like such. But the way he does it, it's so playful. It's almost like I'm a big boy. Because I'm ordering so much. Press. It's so vaguely sexual, not even vaguely. It's so overtly sexual. Just being about breakfast. It's like, I don't know, but and he just randomly just takes the pad and takes the notes off. Yeah. And just like I'm keeping this. Can you remember that? Like, yeah, sure. Yeah, no, I quite like that. Because he's like, can you remember all this is like, Yeah, okay. I'm literally keeping the order. I quite like, yeah, it was. Yeah, it's adorable. I really like the scene where Reynolds has armour in his workshop. And it's deciding what colour suits Alma for a dress, which he never asked for. And it's all quite romantic. But as soon as like Lesley Manville arrives as Cyril, she's really intrusive towards Alma just leans into her personal space and tries to work out what perfume Elma smells like. Yeah. And the whole dynamic of the scene changes and Reynolds is none the wiser, and just carries on doing her measurements. Well, Cyril helps, and it becomes quite awkward for Elma. It's just a really great scene. Especially when he's like, you know, you've you've got no breasts. She's like, Yeah, just like, Yeah, I'm sorry. And he's like, no, no, don't be sorry. You know, it's my job to give you breasts or not, you know. Really strange, just very out of the blue. Yeah. And I love the little piece of acting from Daniel Day Lewis on the on their honeymoon. And he's still getting annoyed by Alma being really loud when she's eating breakfast in the Alps. But Reynolds is trying not to say anything. He's like, Nope, I'm not gonna say anything. She's my wife. Now. I'm trying really hard. can just get that from his performance? Yeah, definitely. Even actually, just at the beginning, where he's having dinner with cereal, and then he happens to just well, he's just going over, like how much he misses his mother. I thought that was really quite heartfelt. And, you know, it felt like he could, you know, literally just break down at any moment. We're just thinking about it, you know, you could feel the emotion and I thought that was just a very sweet scene. Favourite performance buyers were going for. I'm probably going with Dan the man. Yeah, I'll go with Daniel. But you know, the other. I would, I'd say it's mainly a three piece movie because it's, it's him. The other two women, Elman and Cyril, and they are phenomenal. They're really really good. I think probably Daniel Day Lewis is the best but for me, my favourite is Lesley Manville was Cyril. He just has this incredible like steely eyes yeah is very like passive aggressive scenes with our especially oh yeah very very passive. Yeah. very passive. And that obviously that that that line when she threatens Reynolds yeah, that's, you know when she says Oh, he won't get back up again. He's like, Oh, yeah. Really? She means it. You believe so I'm gonna go Lesley Manville Okay, so acting score Bowers, what you're going for? Go like a nine 9.2 for acting for me. I will go a 9.4 I think it's a real total force in acting. And I think certainly in very key moments in this film. If the acting is not spot on. It's not it. There's especially that scene at the end it will fall completely flat. If Daniel Day Lewis does not get that right. And he doesn't add anything. Anyone else could really fill his shoes in that moment specifically, so I'm going to go 9.4 Right let's add up the scores then for phantom fret, which does not involve Billy Zane in a purple onesie. It does involve like a purple dress, I suppose. In many colours of dress. Maybe Billy Zane is one of the girls wearing the dresses. Phantom Fred gets a very, very impressive score of 54.3. But I've a feeling it ain't gonna win. Even with that score, you know that that score is insanely good, but oh man when we get to that will be blown. I've got so much to say about that film. I love them though, as what is your pick for Paul Thomas Anderson. I was trying to think of something funny, and I got something about milkshakes. I'll say I'm an old man. I think you'll agree. There will be blood. Yes. A milkshake, man. Cool. Why did you pick this one? Why did I pick this? Because it's great. It's it's a really grateful. Yeah, I think it's um, I don't even remember how the hell I even heard of this film. But I kind of wanted it. I you know, I may have seen the trailer. I can't remember exactly or review. I think it was a review in Empire magazine a long time ago. And I got it for my, my birthday, you know, as a birthday gift. And did you see the DVD case of this it? It was a piece of crap. I really liked the film. The DVD was was awful. It was made of like cheap cardboard. And it's like, I've got it now. It's smashed. It shouldn't have like a tiny cardboard case. It's like really crap. But the film Oh man, I was, you know, made up for that. You know? Yeah. And I've always liked it. You know, I've just always liked it always comes comes to me when people go, you know, what's your favourite film? I always instinctively think of There will be blood. Really? Yeah, yeah, I yeah, I genuinely like it that much. You know, I've when I did film studies in college, Everybody brought their movie to analyse. There's only like four of us in the class, but it took the class. And I pick There will be blood. And we watch the film. And I did this huge, bloody presentation on it. This really nice stuff. Yeah, yes. Used to read loads of articles about I'll just say less than you then. You know, I'll just be Yeah, I am genuinely an absolute, you know, adoration for this. Do you know a lot of about the time in the history in this history. So not particularly about like our oil barons in the, in the 19th century. I don't know that much. But I think the themes of the film sort of transcend that. I don't think that's what this film is about. Even if you like watch it as a cursory glance, you watch through this film, on the face of it. And if you're to explain it to somebody, it's an oil, Baron, or whatever, up and coming oil, you know, producer who learns about a well in some bloody backwater town and he goes there. And it's very nice to do with the oil business. And he meets, you know, a priest there, and he just doesn't like him. And it's their kind of feud. If you kind of explain it like that, that is sort of what the film is, but that's not what it is at all. You know, there. There are like, heavier themes, I think there that you don't really need to know about the time period or what they're doing. I think there are themes about family. Religion, yeah. Spirituality, you know, capitalism, greed. Yeah, capitalism is revenge. You know? Yeah, capitalism is a very strong thing. And I also think, you know, religion is a huge one as well, because it is essentially these two men who exemplify these, these worldviews and they're at each other's throats. You know, Daniel Plainview is capitalist, he is capitalism incarnate. And Eli is kind of like, you know, this, this shifty preacher, and he's like, a standard for religion. And I just, I find that there are themes in this film, like almost like I could, I could archetypes, you know, it is kind of a story of meaning sort of hidden behind that. It's like when we were talking because this came out about the same time as a man another film, we've done 2007, I think, yeah, but another film we did on the Coen Brothers film, No Country for Old Men, no country. So this came around about the same time, No Country for Old Men, and I remember it being compared quite frequently, quite consistently when No Country for Old Men, like the time period is different. Even what the film is about is like they couldn't be further, you know, from but the fact that they're in like a sort of Western setting in America, and the fact that you know, they're amazingly directed and written, but the fact that they do feel like things as well. Well, so it's like they will Western set yet they do feel like this is a film that is beyond what it's talking about. Like when we were talking about their No Country for Old Men we were trying to get meaning of maybe it was to do with death and and you know, the inevitability of passing and stuff like that and growing old. But it does seem to be like a higher theme that is disguised as a smaller movie. This is very much in that same vein. Yeah, I think both films certainly, like look and feel like a Western, but they're not really typical western not really Western. Yeah, I think it's one it's the fact that it's in the West, it's in the, but it's also the way it's shot. And the way it sort of feels it does feel like a NEO Western in look and feeling but not in, you know, actual content, not what it actually is. But it does have that vibe of a Western. So what happens in There will be blood. So you know, as I said, If I would have just explained the film, simply it doesn't really get to the heart of what it's really about. If I don't explain it simply it's about Daniel Plainview played by Daniel Day Lewis. It's essentially a rise and fall story, as well as like a confrontation between two gigantic man. So Daniel Plainview is an oil man and he hears from this oil. I'm an oil. I am an oil, man. That's one thing I love about this film is I love doing the voice we carry on. I love Yeah, it's your milkshake. I drink it off. Absolutely love doing oppression to this character Scott though, like the boys badass. You know? Great accent, I think is one of my favourite. You know, Daniel Day Lewis accent. I am the third ring of Revelation, Eli. Yeah, yeah, yeah, renovation. But yeah. So if I were to explain it, it's like Daniel Day Lewis plays Daniel Plainview. He's a kind of rags to riches oil tycoon. He came up from nothing. He now produces loads of oil. He gets a tip that there's a tiny village in the middle of nowhere. That has oil under the property. Yeah. So he makes a deal with this guy. Paul gives him some money to learn of this place as location goes there. And his twin Paul's twin brother is played by Paul Dana. Yeah, yeah, Paul, they're both played by Paul Danner. Oh, Dana. He also lives there. And he basically sees through Daniel Plainview facade, that he's just going to buy the land because he likes to hunt quail, because he doesn't want to pay these guys, you know, the ridiculous amount that it's actually worth. But it kind of annoys him that this guy can be his own game. Like, he knows there's oil down there as well, Eli. So he tries to get him to pay him at $5,000. So most of the film is him trying to, you know, buy the land and get oil from this place. And him essentially constantly butting heads with the local priests. That would be the very simple view of what the film is about. But a lot happens really. So I can't Yeah, you can't really condense it like that. Like, you've got no, you know, his son and his sons deafening and, you know, his long lost brother and all this other shit that goes on. Yeah, my favourite aspect of the film is the relationship between HW and Plainview. Not so much. Pull down his character. I mean, it's really great. But that's the one that really is thought provoking to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz as I was saying, you know, the theme of family and yeah, you know, I mean, that's ever present in their relationship. And I think especially their relationship before he's deaf, is incredibly heartwarming and sweet. And he really does care for him. And then even afterwards, it's like, is deafening really does affect their relationship and the ability for Daniel to even cope with him or even sort of connect with him. You know, let's get straight into directing them. I love how the opening scenes do so much storytelling where nobody says a word for about 15 minutes. Yeah, we follow like Daniel Plainview as like a silver miner, then discovers oil, you know, then has a crew around him that literally has bucket loads of oil. They get out of the ground. You're even skipping stuff there because when he first finds silver, and breaks his leg, he breaks his leg finding silver and literally drags his ass miles. You know, to sell the silver. Yeah, I remember I saw I watched a review by Quentin Tarantino, his review of this film and as far as he was concerned, because Daniel Plainview in the first 15 minutes it shows the hell he's been through to get this rich. Yeah. And as far as Quentin Tarantino's said, he said, You can make an entire movie about how he dragged his ass several miles to, like literally he can't even walk. He is pulling himself along to get money. And he said, like to be honest, you could excuse everything he does after that. He could be a lunatic. He could kill a man. He is He is suffered, you know? Yeah. But I think the really interesting thing for me about that scene is that he really established what was going on in who this guy is, is the fact that, you know, he breaks his leg. But what's the first thing he does? He gets the silver and puts it in his Yeah, he doesn't look after his leg doesn't see how you see how messed up his leg is. First thing he does gets the silver puts it in his pocket. He's like his fault, he goes straight down into the mine. Again, he cannot walk gets the silver in his pocket and drags his ass there to sell em. You know, even when they're tending to his wound on his foot. He's making sure that silver gets sold. And then I even loved like the next scene where he goes into the the oil business, just him and a couple of guys, just like how much detail is in that, you know, they've got the actual Derrick, it's real, it's a real thing that they've constructed, they are really digging through a giant hole. This all looks very real and earthy and practical. And one of his friends has a baby, you know, he's cradling a baby and kissing. So you know, you know, that's his friend's baby. Like this thing. Again, no talking, this is kind of like the beginning of app where it's just doing all visually. So you got he comes from nothing. He got rich on silver, he built an oil derrick with some friends. His friend has a baby. His friend dies a horrible death right in front of his eyes. And then he takes on that baby, you know, and becomes rich from the oil and stuff. And now you have the present day. And you know, what's interesting about that opening scene as well is the music. It's like it's really autonomous. With these strings, it's like straight out of a horror film. And they like the music stops as soon as one of the men gets killed by their equipment falling on him. And like Plainview has this has to look after the dead guys, baby. But earlier, there's a shot on the on the guy holding the baby and he kind of comes over to Plainview and points something to help him with the design of our of one of his drawings. Not particularly very Pacific in that way. But he pays no attention to the baby at all, you know. So you know, right from the start plain view has no carrying instincts, really. But when a bit of oil does land on the camera lens, it does spoil the scene a bit for me. I just really fucking hate that because it just takes me out straight away. And it's like I have said this before, but what breaking the fourth wall? It just me. I didn't I do like when you know the the product goes straight through the ground. And they pull it up and he does that way just slides his hand down it and then raises it like you know, yes. You know, like he's got an oil covered hand. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's just beautiful. It's a great camera angle. Great music, great scene and just the acting of it. It's just like, Yeah, fuck yeah, we got oil. And that even the guide baptises The baby in oil. Here. Hey, young HW he kind of gives him a little baptism of oil. And I thought it was kind of adorable because when he's saying he doesn't have paternal instincts, because as soon as the guy dies, he's got to look after this baby. And he's still covered in oil. Still looking like a you know, a rugged man. And he's drinking some whiskey and he's just looking at this baby who's crying and he's like, what you can even see in his eyes. What the hell do I do with you? Yeah, even you pose whiskey on the bottle and skips the bottle doused in whiskey to the baby. It's like he's got no idea what the hell is that? You gave whiskey to a tub, you know, to a toddler, you know, that's crazy. But he's got no idea what the hell he's doing. And then it goes straight into his his oil selling business and I just think that's that's such an incredible opening for Yeah, you get everything you need to know about this character. Yeah, definitely. Even when he goes to the to the place where he's like getting the check for the silver he's just on the floor. Yeah, you know, he doesn't go to like a trying to get his leg sorted out first. No, I'm getting no money for the silver first but my I'm getting away. Yeah, there's a really nice, really amazing quiet shot near the beginning where we see Paul Daniels character who plays twins in this you know the shot starts on him talking to plain view. Then as he walks towards him, the camera tracks around him and there's and they're talking and they Cameras slowly pushes in. And Dana was in silhouette covering like the right side of the frame. And then Dino asked to sit down. Then there's another character, like at the table sat next to plain view. Hamilton played by Kieran, Heinz. And you're like, Oh, he's talking to people. And it's just technically really well done. Shots and so simple to like, introduce a new character just to make it that much more intimidating for put in his character. I just thought it was really clever. But yeah, so simple. Again, like a really long push in that PTA loves, and really works. And then like a similar thing kind of happens, just with cutting this time, when Mary is playing and running around the long table in little Boston, and Plainview catches and says, As your father still hit you, and she shakes her head. Plainview says he better not and I'll take care of you. No more hitting, then cut to the reverse angle. And you see her father right there across the table. Yeah. And it's like plain view does not care who anybody is. No, he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, I really do love that shot. Because you think you don't even see him? It's just him in the door. And then I do love that just cut and like, you guys right there. doesn't care. He knows, you know, it's kind of like plain view. I think you can even say about his character. Like what is said about John Wick? Like he's a man of determination and sheer fucking will. Whatever the hell he wants. So he just tells you how it is. He doesn't give a shit. He will do it his way. There's another shock moment that happens out of the blue again, no suspense building really. Where the big drillbit falls down the shaft in no Boston and just takes out the guy at the bottom. Like he was just a toothpick. You know, that was like whoa, that that was bad. And you know, and as soon as he's out of frame the the film cuts to another shot and it's it's literally like a split second shot of a guy getting crushed, which made me gasp out loud. I was like shit. He again. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's pretty it was pretty full on there's there's so many shots that I really really do like him going hunting, you know, in little Boston with his son. You know, it's such a long take of them just going around shooting but you know, that just looks visually appealing. Even this like barren wasteland, whenever they just go around it, it just looks quite nice. How I feel like PTA uses a lot of like, long lenses to capture these vast landscapes to kind of, like, trap these characters in the landscape. Because there's a lot of scenes where like, characters are just walking, like forward and up in the shot. But then, like, they're not getting anywhere. You know, because the lens is so long, you know, you know, I mean? Yeah, there's several scenes like that. I just can't escape this land, you know? Yeah, yes. Yeah. I like stuff like that with you know, where he goes to pick up HW after he's been sent back from boarding school. And he literally like walks up to the the car that drops him off but it's like it just does it that he walks away so far. And then has this conversation with his with HW and brings him closer to the camera. I don't know why I kind of I like that. It's just like setting up the scene, but having them instead of cutting and tracking them and all that stuff. Just have this long take of just the camera being stationary over like, you know, a great expanse, like you know, it's over there to walk all the way down over there. But yeah, you do get this feeling Yeah, this kind of trapped in this this this empty, trapped in an infinite empty land. Yeah, he got a favourite Shortland Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna name a couple of shots that I quite like, you know, just randomly. So the derrick exploding whole, that whole scene, that whole scene is phenomenal. And in my head, it's like, the PA to PS the resistance of just, you know, how it's done, how it's composed. The sound design of it, just everything. It's just incredible. And the music as well is amazing. The music is really aggressive score. Yeah, when it's kind of the same as the, it kind of starts the same way as like the starting track of this whole, you know, all this the strings and it just sounds like Ah, man, there's so much going on. Sounds like a swarm of locusts or whatever. But then it just gets more it gets more and more and more as all this builds up, you know, builds up with more instruments more, you're like, holy shit. This is like a turn into a full blown you know, performance of sound. Yeah, you're just getting assaulted by sound while basically the world is on fire, you know? Literally, it is yeah, it's just amazing. And I just love how that starts because it starts with like, just this ominous silence. And it just pushes in there digging at the well. Just digging and the drill and then all of us Sudden the bloody thing shakes like hell and the guy's like, oh my god and it just blows the damn roof off and HW goes flying and he does that thing where, you know, you hear buzzing like from his point of view. And then the shot that I really like how it just introduces all this carnage is one of the guys are shot face on of him just one of the workers running for the derrick and and then it goes from behind him and literally bang, you know, because he runs for quite some time. So you think you've got to if this was all real, you've got to get this in one shot, because he's running for some time. And then the derrick just like all of this oil is shooting out it's fucking obliterated the thing that is just incredible and when it goes on fire as well. That's just amazing. I love the light lens flaring at night, like really capturing the lens flare on the on the edges of the frame and it feels the film is going to ignite you anytime. Yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah, like it's just gonna burn a hole through the screen and really feel the heat. Yeah, yeah, I just I just love that whole scene. I think it's phenomenal. And then say even small things like you know the scene afterwards where Paul Sunday is being again quite he doesn't pick his moments very well as he goes to demand the $5,000 like straight after this explosion, you know, it's like Daniel is in no fucking mood to talk about money right now. And but I love how he's walking and the spillage of all the oil from the other night with the explosion. And he's walking down and you see like the the oil slide just loads of oil and just how it reflects the sky. It looks like a giant mirror. But he just walks down and you know, you just got this mirror of the sky like reflected in this in this this oil. So it's simple stuff like that where you're like man that is composed really nice. That just looks Yeah. And then of course Paul gets his absolute interest, right so have some muck for lunch. Yeah, yeah. My favourite shot. There's a great shot after he kills the guy who, who pretended to be his brother Plainview has a pickaxe and is marking out this guy's grave. And the camera like tracks the scene in the dirt with with the body in line with it. And when the axe gets to his head, the dead guy's eyes are literally directly looking into the camera. It felt like with his tongue out. And it's quite a creepy shot. You know, the acting on Daniel Day Lewis as well is incredible as he's confronting this guy with a gun in his face before he kills him. You know that? His eyes like wide open but his right eye is like partially in shadow. So it kind of makes Daniel Day Lewis. Even scarier in that moment. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's definitely creepy. And then also, like, you know, after we, he's like when he grabs his head and shoots him and he's like, you know, and he struggling and he just shoots him in the head. But then it's not even one of these clean shots in the head because he's still alive and dying. So like, somehow shot him through the brain, but he's still alive and slowly dying. Yeah, you have this shot upwards of just Daniel Plainview watching him die. You're watching him. Watch him die. Yeah, just Daniel Day Lewis is facing like this anger and sort of satisfaction as he watches this man die. It's a really dark scene. Yeah, there's so many great scenes, man, there's just so rewatching it there was actually one shot that I never noticed on a previous watch. Watching and I suppose you know, when you say, you know, my fetish for transitions, basically. Transitions, transitions, not cut that Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Don't have that cut off badly. But what was it where there he's he's with his brother or his, you know, quote unquote, brother on the beach. And then he's knowing something's wrong. And how he goes into the, the the sea. And this is the spirit where he's just looking at him from the sea to the beach. And you got the camera on Daniels. He's just looking at him. And then this wave goes over Daniel. Yeah, you know, just as he's watching him, he's just staring. He doesn't see this wave come up behind him. And as it goes over, then it just cuts straight it like transitions it cuts straight to Daniel again looking at him in like a tavern. Just again, like basically the shame shot he's on land now. I just love how that kind of went together where it was just like and then he's in somewhere else but still like, I don't trust this guy. You know, I thought that was that was done really quite nice. It was it was almost a seamless move from the sea to you know a ball. Yeah, definitely. I quite like that. So directing score for me for There will be blood with a bit of milkshake. I'm going to go To see 9.1 I think, I think this film is certainly masterfully directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, one of his strongest films he's made. But again, I think where this film excels is in the writing and the acting. The acting is, and the writing both really are exceptional. They really are. And both these films have such great, real sharp value. And I just feel like you can get more and more out of these films, the more you watch them, there's always something new to get out of them. Yeah, I'll give you some examples of things that I've picked up. Yeah, sure. My rewatches of this film, particularly that I thought were great. So actually, it's mainly in the last scene, but you know that there are plenty that are done throughout. But one thing that I quite like is when he's in the bowling alley, and Eli wakes him up. Yeah, I just thought the, the kind of irony of the fact that he's rich now. He's very, very rich. He's a millionaire. Yeah, he dresses like he looks like he's bloody homeless. He's got a look at how he looks. He looks scruffy. Man and have you noticed he's actually collapsed and drunk in the gutter lane of of the bowling alley. So it's it's so funny the irony that if you watch that scene, that he went from nothing, and now he's alone and drunk in a gutter like all of that was for nothing and Eli is so smartly dressed he's got a new shiny cross. Really smart Yeah, yet he has no money. He has no money he's poor everything shipped with him yet he looks like he's living the life and daddy looks like money but anger. I'm Daniel looks boy it looks like a boom so scroll bars we're going for for direct. Oh, my score. Yeah, now I'm going to go pretty damn high because I just, you know, even with direction I think rewatching this film even just visually I think it is. It's it's a very pretty movie. It's beautiful movie. I can rewatch it just again. And again. I get quite a kick out of it. But yeah, I'll get a like maybe even a 9.7. Actually, I'll go over pretty. Okay. Screenplay, then. I really enjoyed like the constant battles, Daniel Plainview and Eli Sunday have to gain power in little Boston. You know, there's a scene where Eli asks to bless the well before they turn the drill on. And plain views like Sure, go ahead. But plain view blesses the well in self with his son and marry the young lady from the town, you know, using the family values story and saying this is for the children etc. You know, but which deep down is a complete lie when Plainview blesses the well everyone walks off and Elijah's is just standing there standing still and puts his head down, while everyone's just leaving, you know, to get refreshments. And it's like, the first blow goes to Daniel Plainview. And you know, it's like, well, how is Eli gonna react from this was what's he gonna do? I love I love that line. Because like when he he's talking to Daniel about blessing the well. He says, Let me bless the well, he says First you will say like, he's demanding something from Daniel. I think Daniel can't stand him because ironically, he's very much like him. I do find that the kind of irony about the character. It's like, he doesn't like anybody. And he's having this like struggle to find somebody that he likes or some sort of family. And I think the fact is like, God eternally. Yeah, no, no, Daniel, Daniel is always struggling to find some somebody to connect to. And I think, you know, he did have some sort of connection with his son or, you know, quote, unquote, son that he was trying to shape him into a guy like him. And he's also he clicks on that his brother is not his brother, because he's not very much like he is. Because you remember that speech. He's, he's telling him he's like, I don't like anybody. Like, he literally drops down, because he pretends to be a family, man. He pretends to care about the community, but he just opens up to him and says, I hate most people. I just don't like anybody. And he goes, you know, do you get envious, you know, do you get angry? And he's like, No, and he's like, Well, if it's in you, it's in me. If it's in me, it's in you. Yeah. But he kind of works out that he's not his brother, I think because He's nothing like him. He's not a vengeful, egotistical man. Whereas Eli is very egotistical. Eli is also very petty. They do constantly been hit butthead. I think they're very much like the same person. But just, you know, he's a loyal man and the other guys religious. I feel like Eli is very disillusion. He's not as strong as Daniel, and I think he takes a different route. Daniel is a tough man. And Daniel is a physical man and He's a strong man. But where Eli has to sort of he goes, you know, under that by he's good with words. He's good at throwing ghosts out of doors. Yeah, throwing ghosts out of women. He's good at like making a big, you know what I mean with his his his spirituality and his pomp and stuff like, yeah, that's how he sort of tries to influence the world and tries to do what he does. But I think in a very real sense about what they both want to accomplish. They want they both want to be insanely drogyn. Halvorsen? Yeah, yeah, they want to be the top dog. They want to have money in power. They're both very influential. They're both incredibly petty. They both just want to get one over on each other. I you know, I just don't. I think they're very much like each other. And I think the irony of this film, because even on rewatches and stuff, what I've got on the meaning of this film is like, Daniel plain plain view is is a strange character, because he hates this fucking guy. And there's no you know, obviously, he's a weasel. You know, Paul is a weaselly so unlikable, but he doesn't like this guy. But I do think they are very similar. And actually, I think they sat down and talked, maybe they they could get on. And even at the end, where it's like, says to him in the gutter, he goes down. You're my brother, my brother by marriage, but I think they really are very, very similar people. Yeah. But I think that's why they don't get along. It's kind of the the horrible irony of Daniel is he doesn't like anybody who isn't like him. But if you find somebody like him, they're so competitive. And so in his face, because that's what he's like that he can't stand that any, you know, either. I think he's kind of destined to be sort of alone. I feel like Daniel Plainview has worked out. He live from the start pretty much like he's, he's pretty untouchable from plan views point of view, you know, the only way I can really hurt him is through talk about his son. That's it. You know, other than that, even with that sermon scene, I've just still feel like Daniel Plainview is in control in that scene not okay into that in acting, but that's certainly a really interesting scene. But I find the like the failed relationship between Plainview and HW interesting when the drill hits an air pocket and and started off with this like brilliant long push in from PTA going right in to the guy his glove, then you see like the rope, shake, and then the whole well blows up and HW gets thrown backwards and loses his hearing. Hamilton in plain view, save him and plain view does take him back to his little room. But he says to him, you know, you're safe now stay here and playing view helps a bit. And plain view helps a bit in cutting like the ropes off the welltower. But I'm like, you don't have to do that. Let your men do this very dangerous work and be by the side of your son who's in pain, a lot of pain but no, he's, he's celebrating with Hamilton. You know, Hamilton, just as his HW okay? And plain view simply says, No, he is. And just stands there looking at the fire, but then still in his, you know, in his oily clothes, he does try and convey HW and at this point, you do start to question where his loyalties really lie. Like, is it the oil or is it HW, then the film like stealthily tells you that he does care of HW because he tries to fix his hearing by trying to send for a doctor and, and you know, he sends him off to school to help him with his with his communication. But it still feels like he's doing this so he can help sell his services better. You know, I just feel it. It's always there's always a sense that this relationship is false. But you know, there's always that question even right at the end. Does he love HW or not, you know, yeah, I think what was it? I don't even think Daniel Plainview knows if he really loves him. It's one of these things like I think he you know, I don't fully buy where he was like, I just needed you to sell, you know, my business and I just needed a handsome you know, an adorable face, you know, and he kind of borates him. But I have a feeling with Daniel, he he likes to be heard. He likes people to listen here. He likes people to obey Him. He likes people to just be submissive and do what he says and do do it exactly, as he says. And I think he's kind of rearing HW to be sort of like a perfect a student, you know, for basically his demands and what he wants to shape them into. And I think when he kind of loses his hearing, it's almost like Daniel is lost a power over him. It's like, you know, Daniel is really in love with himself. Daniel is in love with himself. And Daniel loves people to know how amazing he is. He loves to talk to people. Yeah, and this is probably why he just cannot stand Eli, like one, he can't. So with Eli, he can't get one over on Eli, he can't convince Eli to shut the fuck up and do what he wants. And another thing, Eli is also going counter to what Daniel does. So Daniel tries to get everybody to love him, he tries to get everybody to obey Him. And then you see, the first time he really takes notice that what, what Paul can do, because, you know, the first time you meet him, and he has a huge argument with him, because he's not, you know, he's, he's talking about he wants $5,000 for the thing, and he's not taking his offer for quail. He wasn't like tricked for that. And he doesn't like him there. And then you see another thing where Eli is trying to convert members of his drilling company to his religion, and you could see him just look at Revelation like is this guy do? You know, what is this guy doing? Like he's, he's basically taking power away from Daniel, you know, he's basically teaching the hearts and minds of people that you know, Daniel, he wants to control you know, what is the third revelation anyway? I think it's just a made up thing for this thing, I suppose. I suppose you just say like the first revolution. Revelation might be like the Old Testament, maybe the second one is the New Testament. Okay, then he's is like a third. You know, opening to that, you know, a completion of that. That serious, you know what I mean? I think he's now a prophet for God. Yeah, he's a prophet for God. So he's like an addition to you know, Moses gave first one Jesus gave the second one, Paul's given the third. He's very up himself, full of ghosts to throw out the window. I think another reason Daniel might not like him is because unlike Daniel, Eli is kind of a hypocrite. Like, I think, you know, Daniel, at least is being damn honest. You know? Yeah, I'm actually doing this. I'm actually helping people to get them to love me and to get money. And you are just selling nonsense. You're just lying. You're pretending you're pretending you're better than me. You're probably the same. Yeah. Yeah. But in that final scene, definitely. And I think he essentially admits it because for Eli to just say because he wants money that badly. That yeah, you know, God doesn't exist and he shouting, you know, the I have a false prophet gods are superstitious. You think he's proved his point there? You You're a piece of shit. You're just like me? You only care about money. You don't believe that was nonsense? Yeah, I find the final scene on plain view zone private volley actually quite fascinating. Yes, there are amazing lines and incredible acting, but the writing of the scene is incredible too. Because before Eli thought he humiliated Plainview during that sermon in little Boston, but failed. Because Plainview was being true to himself. You know, the third revelation had no influence on him and his beliefs. Only talk about his son could hurt him. But now Eli is seeking help from Plainview in his house on his turf. So Plainview tricks him by agreeing to drill in the Bandy tract. If he shouts out that he's a false prophets, false prophets, you know, and all that stuff. Then all of a sudden, as calm as you like, he just says, these areas have been drilled. Then what happens is quite funny when plain view is literally lobbying bowling pins. Because play view is because plain view is not pretending to be someone he's not like Eli is Eli is dressed all smart. And how's as a new shiny cross, you know, yet he has no money, because of the 1920 crash. 29 crash. plain view is brutally honest, smart man. He's a brutally honest, smart man and absolute bastard, but smart and true to himself. That's why it's kind of funny. And you're kind of with him in the end. But at the same time, we do feel sorry for him because of the immense growth in like, capitalism that has made him become this way. Well, he's basically he's alien, alienated everybody that could have ever formed an attachment to him. And sadly, even, you know, hw is so and again, he throws them away just because he wants to, to drill on his own. And he's, and it's not like, oh, I can feel good for you or anything. It's just, you're my competitor, you know, like, get the hell out. You know. And when the film does jump, 20 years, Daniel Plainview has achieved what he wanted. This is technically a success story for Daniel Plainview, even though he's a horrible character. You know, he's got his big house, he's cut off from the world and people that is what he wanted. So when HW comes to see him saying he's going to start his own business in Mexico, the plain view he feels like he's been completely betrayed by him and says, like the truth to him, that he's an orphan and says, You're killing my image of you as my son and says later, I took you for no other reason. And I needed a sweet faced by what he says is very much true. You see that that's the case through watching the film even after seeing this horrible truth to HW I feel like there is still love there for HW you know the way he keeps repeating you're just a bastard from a basket bastard from a basket. You know he is very emotional when he's showing that then we get like a flashback in little Boston of they're messing about you know, Plainview playing with his son almost. So even at the end, the question is still there was their love for HW or not, you know, what? Was he just using him to sell to buy land? Or was there genuine love there? But that question is still there at the end, which I quite like, yeah, some phenomenal lines in this film. Listen, Paul, if I've travelled all that, if I travel all the way up there and find that you've been lying to me, I'm going to find you. I'm going to take more than my money back. Is annoyed with you. Yeah, I do like that because you get this. Cuz I just kind of I like how Daniel sort of puts himself across to the public and to everybody else, as he's this kind of almost fatherly figure and he'll get everything sorted. And he's like, the voice of God you listen to he's very polite. He's very polite, very, very polite, very aggressive. Yeah. But you know, he'll, he says, you know, he says what he's gonna do. He, he's very, you know, charming and other stuff. And this is the kind of first inkling you get that he is a very vengeful man, don't fuck him. Because he can like, you can switch it off and he will, he will kill you. He will flat out kill you. And he can drop that charm. And he can he can bloody murder you if you're getting in the way. And I like how he does that very certainly of, you know, I'm gonna find you and I'll take more than my money back. And you're like, Wow, that's quite intimidating. But then, you know, later lines where he's just kind of, you know, you know, he's, he's a lot more He's a lot more in your face about it. Can everything around here we got? Sure. Like I said, Go east, because there's nothing out there. To these rival oil men. I like the threat scene because he really does it up or not where a notch where he kind of sends HW away to some boarding house because he can't do that guy wants to buy buy up the oil here tells. Yeah. And they're offering him a million dollars and stuff. And he goes, Well, we can make you rich overnight. And he's like, Well, what will I do with myself? He seriously goes, I'm asking you, what will I do with myself? He's like, you could take care of your son. And he keeps bringing it up. And you can tell he's really missing him. He's like, I just love the threat of they're just talking and he just goes Do you know what I'm gonna find wherever you're sleeping, wherever you are. And I'm gonna come into your room and I'm gonna slit your throat. He's like, he's like, You don't tell you're gonna slit my throat and he's like, you're like, like, you're really believing him? He's gonna cut this fuck his throat. What are you looking so miserable about? There's a whole ocean of oil under our feet. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people. I can't keep doing this on my own with these people. And of course, I am the third revelation. I drink your milkshake. Well, I think my favourite one is just a beautifully written insult. Yeah, yes. I can find me again in that last scene. Plainview says to Eli, you're just the after burfi like that slivered out of your mother's filth. You should have you in a glass jar on the mantelpiece. Wherever you pour, when Paul was suckling on his mother's teat, being nursed by one of these sounds is just really really me. And then I like it at the end. Like he's like, Don't bully me Daniel. He grabs him. He's like, fucking mud. Is it? Like bully you? I'd kill you. Yeah, he's funny, I think is funny. Yeah. Yeah, you got a favourite line then? I think the most iconic line is probably my favourite of. It's called drainage. Eli see if you have a milkshake and I haven't. And I have a straw and my straw stretches across the room. That starts to drink your milkshake. I drink your milkshake. Great He crooner I just love the the ending scene is just amazing. The whole damn scene is incredible. makes the film for me. I think this film for me would still be like, you know, maybe maybe an eight or whatever. You know through most of the film The last scene the whole damn thing makes it a nine even a 10 for me just been seen as the greatest way anybody has ever closed a movie. incredible scene. Yeah. Everything okay, Mr. Plainview. Now? Yeah, I'm finished. And I love that I love that line. Because to me, it's like he's finished handling his business. Like he's finally got his revenge against that snivelling bastard. And he's done what he said he would do because you know, where he's saying, like I told you, I'd eat you up. What I found is actually, when he's saying that he's throwing bowling pins, the composition of that shot, the look of that shot is almost identical to where, you know, he was in front of a church congregation. It's done like that same thing, and where he was being slapped around by by pole. And after his slapping he shook Paul's hand and he whispered something in his ear. He must have whispered like, I will eat you, you know? Because he's saying like, I would told you I would eat you in the same composition. Sure. Told you it. And do you know another thing because I was saying you can get so much from rewatches and listening to other people. But when Paul is telling him about Vandy strat, do you know what he's eating? No, lamb? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I just think that's, that's really funny. Because you know, this guy is he's, you know, a Lamb of God and all this shit. And he's even saying, like, I drink the blood of lamb from bandys track, and he was talking about he'll eat him up. I think it just ties in the symbolism there. Like he's literally listening to him talk and sort of symbolically eating him right in front of it. Yeah. I think if there is a criticism, I think when we get to Henry, the guy who pretends to be Henry Plainview, it does lose a little bit of momentum. Not much at all. You kind of lose the presence of Eli a bit and their battle, but that's just a minor criticism. So I'll go like a 9.7 I think for screenplay. Yeah. Do you know I think I'll go. Probably the same height, you know, 9.7. I do kind of agree. I do like, you know, the introduction of Henry. I think Henry, even the actor is pretty good. I don't think he's quite on the same level with you know, as I said, Daniel Day Lewis and Paul Dano and I do miss their sparring matches and it does kind of, you know, I do agree with you there. But I think he is an interesting character to include. And I also find it interesting Did you that scene because I've been thinking about this long and hard why the heck HW, tried to set him on fire. You know, remember where he lived when he arrived through the guy's diary? Diary. Yeah. And there's a picture of a woman. Yeah, I think he must have as he was flicking through stuff. He knew that this wasn't his brother. You know, this wasn't Daniel's brother. And if you think about it, this is he can't communicate this with Daniel that this guy is gonna, you know, he's portraying him. He's not your brother. And I think he's kind of batshit response of trying to burn him alive. I have a feeling he must have got that sort of notion from Daniel. Daniel is a very vengeful man, you know, and he's been raising him his whole life. That is kind of an insane thing to do. I think that gives you insight into Daniel. Life. Someone fucks him over, he is probably gonna kill him. So I think I think his son was probably like, this guy's betraying my dad. I can't communicate with my dad. I just kill him because I guess that's what he does. When he's, he finds out to shoot. But for me, like the acting is equally as good. Oh, yeah, play. It's a maths class. And of course, Daniel Day Lewis won an Oscar for this film. And I don't think anyone really came close to taking this Oscar away from him in this film. Yeah, I love the first conversation Daniel Day Lewis has with Eli Paul. Dino's character at the dinner table and plain view is trying to like keep the conversation with the weary old Mr. Isla. Mr. Sunday. Eli keeps interrupting and demanding more money. You know, this is the first time like Daniel Day Lewis looks quite pissed off at Eli while trying to stay polite to that family. Even the very first scene they have together where Eli bring some woods for them for their fire when they're, you know, hunting for quail. He looks really earnest and over overly welcoming. You know, they shake hands and plain view smiles away but as soon as Eli leaves you can see on Daniel Day Lewis his face that he's twig this guy already that he's very religious and could be an option. to call for for playing view, you know, the first sermon scene where Paul Dino as Eli is amazing where he throws a ghost out of the door is quite something to watch. He starts off being like, incredibly calm like we've seen before. Then his performance gets bigger and bigger. And by the time he gets to the door, it does become funny to me. It's just Yeah. But I thought it was hilarious. It really is intentional. I think it was intentional. I think it's going just how sort of over the top and absurd is sort of, you know, ministry is and how he sort of, you know, trying to get attention it's like this whole dramatic performance, you know, and it's so I think it's it's so intentionally ridiculous. And I think Daniel knows it's ridiculous and he cannot believe people are falling for this. That they love him for this. This craziness is like, just doesn't like it. Then you get this great close up shot on Daniel Day Lewis who's sitting in on the sermon is like, well, this is awkward. He looks so uncomfortable, but still trying to look calm. Yeah. I love both Paul Dino and Daniel Day Lewis is performance because I think they're, they're both scary as each other. And I love the scene where he like walks past a pool of of oil and comes to see Daniel Plainview. And before he like and finishes and Plainview just slaps him and drags him through the mud and literally tries to put mud in his mouth. No way. Is it like, Oh, here's your watch of the day. But Daniel Day Lewis is really menacing. But I love Daniel Day Lewis his reaction because he is literally dragging him. It's so aggressive and literally like throwing, but he, when Paul like, tries to push him back, and Daniel just laughed it off. He's like, Whoa. Okay, now, okay. See, Alice is like he's got some fight in him after all. Just the way he acts. That is brilliant. But Daniel Day Lewis is really menacing because as Eli is approaching, Daniel is looking directly at Eli, he's and as he's approaching, he's standing like, definitely still and completely ignoring the people next to him. And then the next scene, the Sunday dinner table, Eli does pretty much the same thing. To a ball, his father, he's so calm, calling him stupid. You're a stupid old man. Then all of a sudden, he just gets gets on the table and starts beating on his father like grabbing his face, and it's all covered in dry mud. Two very similar scenes of aggression, but very different tones for each character. Yeah, definitely. Eli in playing Yeah. Because I think even like, what they emphasise is like, Daniel, he has a very physical, very temporal sort of power, you know, very sort of masculine energy. And, you know, he is threatening, you know, he's gonna bury him, he's gonna kill him. You know, it's very, you know, it's very real, it's very physical material. You know, I am literally going to bury you, you know, with my bare hand. Whereas the same scene with Eli, he has he invokes God, you know, he's like, God does not defend stupid men. Like, you know what I mean, he's much weaker, but he has, he has, like, you know, the idea of God on his side, you know what I mean? Like, God is gonna fucking deal with you. Abel is so stupid. And yeah, just yeah, how they kind of deal with it is very, it's very sort of different. You know, he's, yeah, it is almost like, you know, as I said, Daniel is the very kind of real physical man. Whereas Eli is the more spiritual man. And you see how they kind of handle basically the same situations, but just kind of differently. Yeah, very different. Whereas, you know, as I said, Eli is much weaker. So he needs to meet to kind of rely on threats of hell. Whereas Daniel, he can physically beat you to, to a pole. He doesn't mean to rely on any threat, he can literally kill you. I absolutely love the scene in the church, where Plainview has to be blessed by God to buy up the rest of the land so he can build his pipeline for it. What I was gonna say, I love I love his scene. I love the scene even before that, where he's talking to William Bandy and bandys like, God has told me what you must do. You must be, you know, if he wants this track, he needs to be blessed at the Church of the third revelation, and you could see the horror on Daniels face. And I love how he's like, I'll pay you $3,000 Yeah, and then he's even like, 5000 you will be blessed. 5000 It's so funny. He's offering him 5000 This is all that, that Paul. Eli wanted Eli wanted 5000 And he doesn't want to give him 5000 He's willing to give this old bugger 5000 So he doesn't have to Eli, he hates him that much. But in the blessing scene, it's the one scene where Daniel Plainview is vulnerable. And it's like the spiritual mercy, shall we say, of Eli, and you're like, Eli is gonna win this particular battle this time. You know, Daniel Day Lewis begins looking really embarrassed. He doesn't say the words with much conviction. But when he's forced to say, I've abandoned my child, he really goes for it. You know, I've abandoned my child. And, like, maybe he really did care for his adopted son, but, but what's really interesting later in the scene, is Eli slaps him. And it's like plain view is goading him on to keep slapping and make Eli. Eli's performance even bigger, because it's like, only talk about his son can really hurt him. You can say anything else. I don't give a shit. You know? I can take it. Yeah. As I was saying, like, they're very different characters in the fact of just like, as I said, just actual will and actual strength. Because Daniel like when he manhandled Eli, before he beat the hell out of them. And here is Eli giving it all he has slapping him and he is barely even affecting Daniel, Daniel smiling. I love also like the Daniel is going like, show me the Lord. He like. He just doesn't. Like come on me like, yeah, so you're kind of like laughing with Randy at Eli's ridiculous performance. Then when people start singing, there's power in the blinds. Then Plainview says there's a pipeline as the next verse, it's actually quite funny. Then when then then when they're all done, like, Eli looks absolutely disgusted, like and shocked, like this has not worked. You know, I have lost this battle. Yeah, do you know actually, there was another thing I realised with the script. I'm just gonna veer onto it a little bit. Sure. But like, their names, their names, I think are quite funny. So like, you know, Daniel Plainview. I mean, you know, straight up his name playing, you know, plain view, and even talks about like, how he's playing, speaking, you know, so that right kind of reflects his name. But even when he talks to Henry, and he just gets just his utter contempt for mankind and just for everybody that's like, he like less than him even like, who like him? Where he's just like, I see the worst in people, Henry, I don't need to look past seeing them to get all I need. So he's very, you know, black and white. And he is very player is gonna, you know, and then also I like Eli, because what was it? Daniel thinks he's full of shit. You know, he doesn't believe what he's preaching. And his name like, Eli, it's an anagram of lie. Have you noticed that? Yeah. But lie in his name. So lie is his name. He is he's a lie. You know, and I just I kind of like that, I think in my, you know, headcanon I hold Thomas Anderson pick those names deliberately. He's like, that is what these characters are. This is a lie. This is a guy who is very sort of straightforward, man. I think the only other scene I liked with Daniel's Elio is certainly in terms of a humour point of view. His funny when he's in the restaurant, and he just puts a napkin on his face, and just takes the piss out of Telford who sat at the table next to him with all his men being actually quite rude. Like, talking about plain view. When he's just right, then on the next then when he comes over to Telford say you're he's so intimidating that something bad could happen. It doesn't. But still what? You feel it, you feel it? Definitely. But yeah, I like him, because he goes up there. And he's like, look over there. What do you see? You know, that's my son. Yeah, that's right. And he's just like, you know, don't tell me don't tell me how to raise my family. Yeah, but I like how he goes like, you look like, Oh, what do you remember? He's like, look like, Oh, don't you tell for like a really? Either. Tilford is like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, like he's stuttering like, yes, yes. Yes. Daniel. He's like, Yo, like, imitates him. Like he's just really? Yeah, it does feel like he could just like snap his neck at that point. He's so yeah, but yeah, that was a funny that was very funny. So silly question. Favourite performance? Oh, yeah. leaps and bounds. Daniel. Yeah. Daniel Day Lewis. I think this is this is his baby through and through. And I do love you know, a lot of the other performances you know, I like HW I think as a child actor, he does a pretty good job. And I like Paul Dano. There aren't that many characters who are like, four, four. On of the movie there are there are very good like side characters and they're played competently. They're all very like on purpose complimentary to Daniel Day Lewis is carrying Yeah, braces that they're not really I would say yeah, only those three have any sort of development and Henry just a little bit more, but everybody else is kind of like the fall man to you know Daniels, like bubbling rage essentially, you know, yeah, just like you know, they're kind of obstacles for him to overcome. And and he does so tremendously, you know, yeah. Acting School for me. I'm going to go 9.8 for me. I think I'm not sure you can get better acting in this film. I think just to point decimals off, because, you know, the other performances are kind of just there for to compliment Daniel Plainview. Yeah, yeah, I would say you know, if you're if you're talking about they're basically there to set Daniel to set Daniel Day Lewis up. Do you know what I mean? It's like, you would say this, the straight man and the actual comic, you know, it's not that they're not both on the same footing. They are setting up Daniel, they are there to basically get the best out of Daniel Day Lewis and he goes full on, like, almost all the time, you know, whether it's to be emotional or intimidating or, or flat out, you know, while sad or rage filled, and he's just so good in this film, like he does act his bloody little heart out, you know, very compelling to just watch him. Without the acting. I still would quite like this film, but I don't think I would like it anywhere near as much. Like it's hypnotic because of Daniel Day Lewis. He's like, Yeah, he is the film really? So yeah, maybe I'll go with the same with you. I think I recognise Yeah, okay. 9.8. So, let's add up the scores. And four, there will be milkshakes, I mean, blood. So there will be blood gets a whopping 57.8 which I think is probably the highest score we've ever given a film, but not sure you can be. There are not many films that can beat this film. I don't think so. Yeah, there will be there will be blood wins this week over Phantom. Fred. I was still very much recommend you watch Phantom. Fred. It is an excellent, excellent film. Yeah, true. I don't script. Absolutely. Absolutely. I can completely agree. Because I mean, we've sung its praises. And I don't think you should disregard a film because it last, quote unquote, lost the competition. It's an incredibly good movie. Yeah. So in the next episode in two weeks, not next week, in two weeks, we're gonna have a look at Cyrano, the pitted English musical, which will be out in cinemas across the world. And we'll be having a look at Joe Wright films, the dregs of that film. So we'll be picking Joe Wright films. Cool. Thank you buyers. You have been magnificent in your milkshake work today. Drainage draining crooner. Turning into Batman bird. I'm not sure we'll be able to understand Robert Pattinson as Batman to be rah rah. I think he's taking a bit too far and is doing an actual impression of a bat. Yeah, I love it. If he drinks a milkshake in that film that'll be with a giant straw, literally across Garthen get the bad straw out for it. No milk shakes for you Catwoman there. Oh, my. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. That's it for this week's pod. Thank you for listening. We hope you enjoyed it. If you would like to find out more about the podcast or suggest future topics for us to discuss related to upcoming releases. Let us know on Instagram at film versus film podcast and on Twitter at FPF underscore podcast. Remember, please subscribe pod signing off